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When I push aside all the rhetoric , I have to say that I can't help admiring David Camerons decision to insist on the Referendum for people to vote IN or OUT. It could turn out to be his defining moment in his leadership of the country.

 

Now I am not going to say what he does for me as leader of the conservatives is good or bad but he has stuck by his guns throughout the debate and , in difficult circumstances, he has fronted up to the EU for a better deal and stands up to be shot down by people both in and out of his party back here in the UK. Bearing in mind what I see is people who do little or nothing for the people of this country clambering onto the bandwagon to scream that we should come out.

 

So on the 23rd June 16 , everyone gets their chance to say what they want -- Brexit or not.

 

What for me is sad is -- after having done a blog on friendship yesterday---to see a man whose "friend" doesn't support him when he is trying to do what he believes is the right thing. Bearing in mind , this is also unprecedented to have a PM in this kind of position , who needs support to push the plans he has been fighting for with a bunch of bureaucrats , and he gives his party MP's the right to vote which ever way they want- that's pretty bold.

 

 

Above is a sign that could describe best what goes on in Brussels and they are who Cameron has been fighting on our behalf---ok so maybe you all didn't vote for him or his party , but if you believe in the British system of Government then you must accept that this man is the elected leader so love him or hate him , he is doing this for what he and others believe to be the best for the UK.

 

 

But how is it that one of your best mates comes out so vociferously against staying in and knowingly does this when there will be plenty of little Lemmings that will trot along behind him, thus weakening the governments position ----

 

 

I don't know about anyone else , but I love a good conspiracy theory, and lets try this one----

• Boris wants to be the next Conservative candidate for Prime Minister and he knows that David Cameron is not going to stand again and in fact will step down before the next general election.
• So based on that, he has an extremely good position to achieve that ambition and we already know that in any successful support for the staying in the EU from Boris it would almost certainly come with a Cabinet post for him. Nothing wrong with that you might think.
• So here comes the rub for Boris--- if he supports his mate on staying in the EU and gets a Cabinet post, it means that he would have to stand down from the position as Lord Mayor of London but probably less well known but maybe a little more significant would be having to resign from being a Columnist with the Daily Telegraph, which adds nearly £300K into his bank annually -- and that is only one of those commissions that we know of and if there are any others , they will have to be relinquished as well--- those are the rules for the members of the Cabinet.
• So here we have a bloke who has never ever-- I really mean NEVER EVER shown any Anti Europe tendencies, never campaigned  at any time in the past years against the EU and someone the Prime Minister might have expected to get support from.
• So to suddenly come out with this stance on a Brexit from the EU, for me, has to have some ulterior motive and keeping Boris in the luxury he is accustomed to seems to me to be as good a motive as any.

 

It is really interesting --- yes and I am sure there are other polls that show something else but I don't care as this is MY blog -- that both Dave and Boris are the only ones that trusted more than not trusted --- I love the tony blair percentages--- so clearly Boris has influence-- remember the lemmings I talked about. It is just a shame that for someone who is your mate , who has never ever said anything against the EU suddenly sticks the proverbial knife into Daves back and we should not underestimate the impact he can have -- nor should we be fooled by the idiot stuff he does , this is a serious candidate for PM and that is pretty scary--- I would never trust a bloke who isn't prepared to be true to his mate. People who do something different behind your back than they would face to face should not be trusted.

 

 

So in these buildings there would appear to finally have been some concessions made towards the proposals that the government have been trying to gain agreement with.

 

Now , I do not profess to have read everything there is regarding what exactly it is that Dave thinks he has won for us, I mean if you had remotely the level of interest to understand that then you probably have no other kind of life, but suffice to say that he is my Prime Minister , and as such I trust him to be looking to do what he feels is in the best interest of the country and therefore us.

 

A little naïve you say -- well maybe -- but I go along with the idea that when migrants of any kind come to Britain , it should be on the basis that they demonstrate that they are there to integrate into their chosen society and are contributing to the economy which makes them entitled to the full family support which is ok because they are contributing----but which then gets sent back to the with and family back in their own country , where the value of that money is maybe 10 times the value back there , then I think that this demand is unfair. Support to the family is one thing but actually sending back what will be an equivalent of a very handsome salary that is handed out here for nothing doesn't seem right.

 

If you take the United Nations statement that "Migrant Workers" is anyone that decides to work outside their country. Well lets be clear--- I have worked in many countries abroad and while I may have been in a more senior position than some and therefore not necessarily dependant on any kind of handout , and let me tell you there were times when I really had to rough it and got absolutely no help--even if we were there building things that they needed but couldn't do it themselves---when it has been in European countries , such as Germany , there were not too many conversations about social handouts that can be sent home and certainly not for brits  & maybe I didn't expect or want any anyway.

 

Ok , so that may seem more than a little disingenuous, to people who come to the UK looking for work and which is likely to be in the agriculture (Pickers) or Construction industries or maybe in the service areas,-- really menial jobs  that we here cannot seam to fill anyway but that is no-ones fault as these workers decide that the option of no work at home helps them to decide that travelling to the UK will be the best option to earn some money for their families -- and good luck to them for that. But there is a bit of me that does think that they , especially in a community where there is support from others from their country, can offer advise as to how to play the system, that's fact--not everyone-- but definitely some

 

 

So back to the whole EU debate-- this is one of the sensitive areas that Dave was trying to get changes for Britain and the British people and which were a sticking point with so many of the eastern European countries and we seam to have received an acceptable deal-- well, anything less onerous is a bonus--or if it's better than before then happy days.

 

Of course people find it difficult to get their head around the fact that there are these migrant workers and then there are the Syrian Refugees ( and a whole bunch from every other middle east country as well as a whole bunch of those in north Africa) and I think therefore , as we don't see the tens of thousands that are currently on the move around central Europe or worse still what there is in the are of Greece and Macedonia, we should be grateful for the position we have with regard to border controls. Also it is worth reminding everyone that there are around 2 thirds of those immigrants that apply and get refused asylum , are still here years after the event , so -- do you know what -- we already have many problems with regard to helping genuine distressed  people with a real entitlement.  Just saying!!!!!!

 

A very sad situation but a discussion for another day but just think on Brits--- the majority of people in this country have jobs , maybe not the best jobs or ones that they would chose for themselves but there is very very low unemployment, unlike |Greece that has -- in some places-- they have 50% unemployment and worse in under 25 year olds and who are also expected to feed and care for 10's of thousands of refugees when they have so little during this economic crisis and the EU sit back and do very little to help.

 

Remember, that there are camps across the channel that hold up any of these migrant workers coming from Africa trying to get in to the UK-- it may not be pleasant , it may be that there is squalor and violence and generally a bad situation , but it is hard for me to accept that these people, knowing that there are laws in the UK for security purposes and to be fair to those that have a legitimate right to come in to our country-- knowing all that they still try to get in and try to dismiss the fact that we need to maintain the right to not let in people who don't have the right.

 

An interesting point to also remember is that we have the ability to take a free vote to choose what we think is right --- which is a bit more than most of those that are from middle east countries--and the fact that for this issue you can choose what you want us to do , is down to Dave, because he decided to go for the referendum and to let MP's vote with their conscience.

 

There are going to be 4 months now where we will get bombarded by every argument there is around the IN's & OUT's and we are going to get stuff like this thrown around---

 

 

 And just to show we are balanced----

 

 

 I cannot ever imagine buying a used car off this bloke, let alone listen to his opinions on whats best for the UK. He might resonate with many people in speaking about patriotism, but his logic leaves me cold. No-one really knows when they say lets leave this or that what the actual implications will actually be , whereas we can be pretty sure of what we now have with the latest changes to our deal.

 

No-one will be really sure that the long term impact of leaving on major businesses -- so if you do not know that , how can anyone possibly be able to see how far reaching that will go when it comes to SME's (small , medium enterprises) or small business and the general supply chain.

 

So I guess you will have worked out by now that I am pretty firmly in this camp ----

 

There is some great evidence around that you can benefit better when you are inside an organisation than when you are standing outside it. And if it did prove that it was a disaster for the British economy and therefore the British people, you cannot suddenly change your mind and try to jump back in.

 

 

So from me the message is clear and that is for Britain to stay in the EU and I will be voting for that and a final bit of advice is that you better strap in -- it's gonna be a rough ride and will probably get very personal.

 

Go Get Em Dave